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Message 120200 - Posted: 28 Aug 2018 | 20:13:07 UTC

Could do some crunching every night on my phone...

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,132,712)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,114)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,234,442)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,751,038)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,007,110)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,718,606)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,007,789)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,118,303)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (78,031,938)WW Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,204,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 120201 - Posted: 28 Aug 2018 | 20:46:53 UTC - in response to Message 120200.

None of our current apps are suitable for ARM processors.
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Discovered 4 mega primesEliminated 1 conjecture "k"Discovered 1 AP26Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 mega prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes Mountain StageFound 1 prime in the 2021 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,014,730)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,080,460)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (502,799)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,000,054)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (98,884,636)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,092,773)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (40,278,369)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,734,011)SGS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,227,275)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (691,677)Woodall LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (15,028,246)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,084,376)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,606,749)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,323,949)AP 26/27 Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (238,221,646)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (151,779,252)WW Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,860,000)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (53,011,665)
Message 120202 - Posted: 28 Aug 2018 | 21:33:40 UTC - in response to Message 120201.

None of our current apps are suitable for ARM processors.


Ah, thank you for the info.

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Message 120211 - Posted: 29 Aug 2018 | 14:37:56 UTC - in response to Message 120201.

None of our current apps are suitable for ARM processors.


If someone is willing to write some ARM assembly, it would be possible to get some of the sieving programs to run on it.

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Message 120212 - Posted: 29 Aug 2018 | 15:34:45 UTC - in response to Message 120211.
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None of our current apps are suitable for ARM processors.


If someone is willing to write some ARM assembly, it would be possible to get some of the sieving programs to run on it.


In BOINC, dealing with large speed differences in apps is difficult. Roughly speaking, GPUs are 40x faster than CPUs, and CPUs are 40x faster than Android devices. While we do GPU-CPU apps currently, and have done CPU-Android in the past, we do not want to do GPU-CPU-Android. That eliminates a potential Android PPS-Sieve app from consideration.

As far as manual sieving is concerned, Jim would need to address whether having an Android sieve app as well as a GPU app would create problems for him.

Looking at the sieves that don't have corresponding GPU versions, on BOINC we currently have GCW-Sieve. Although we certainly could do an Android GCW-Sieve, this sieve is approaching optimal sieving depth and is expected to shut down in a few months. It doesn't make sense to write, test, and activate a new app at this time.

That leaves us with manual sieving's Primorial Sieve app. If you want to make an Android app, that's the only one that seems even remotely appropriate. And, very importantly, you'll want to hear from Jim on this as to whether it makes sense from his perspective. He's the one, after all, who is doing the "manual" part of manual sieving on the PrimeGrid side.

The topic of this thread is "Why isn't PrimeGrid an option on the BOINC Android mobile app?", so these comments apply to PrimeGrid's perspective on Android apps. Obviously, your apps have applications beyond PrimeGrid and an Android app might have uses in some other context.
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Message 120213 - Posted: 29 Aug 2018 | 15:39:50 UTC

It doesn't much matter to me except that if Androild primorial sieving code existed ,anyone using it would need to stick to small reservation sizes that could actually finish in a reasonable time.

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Message 120216 - Posted: 29 Aug 2018 | 16:54:57 UTC

After thinking about it some more, an Android app would be problematic as part of manual sieving. We'd only make use of it as part of BOINC. Currently, there are no BOINC apps here that are suitable for an Android app, although it's possible that will change in the future.
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Message 120219 - Posted: 29 Aug 2018 | 19:47:03 UTC - in response to Message 120216.

Fingers crossed!

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