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Message 139846 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 3:47:12 UTC

As far as I understand, PPS Mega is currently testing 1201 ≤ k ≤ 9999 up to n = 3.6M. However, on the statistics page, if you scroll down to 1201, random rows below that are green, indicating they are 'complete', even though they are only at n = 3.33M.

It seems like the page is automatically highlighting a row as "complete" whenever there are 0 tasks in progress for that k value, even if the "tasks waiting" column is above zero. In fact if you wait a few hours and refresh the page, you'll find some rows go from green to white, and others change from white to green.

Is this intended, or a mistake? If it is a mistake, I would appreciate if it was corrected. Thanks.
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8915 × 2 ^ 1507177 + 1 -- 453,710 digit PPSE
6603 × 2 ^ 1411654 + 1 -- 424,955 digit PPSE (DC)

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (370,134)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,910)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,570)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,551)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,042,311)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,371)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (183,524)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,878)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (195,905)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (19,925)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,667)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,774)
Message 139847 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 3:51:27 UTC - in response to Message 139846.

Where does it say that green means complete? I assumed that it was intended to mean "no tasks in progress".

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (370,134)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,910)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,570)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,551)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,042,311)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,371)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (183,524)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,878)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (195,905)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (19,925)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,667)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,774)
Message 139848 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 4:10:31 UTC

FWIW, I don't think the tables for different subprojects are necessarily intended to have a uniform "key". They were made at various times, most (I think) by JimB but maybe some before him. For example, green appears to mean "no tasks in progress or waiting" (but still not necessarily completed) in the PPSE table. And in the PPS-Sieve table, completed ranges are not even shown.

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Message 139850 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 13:58:10 UTC

Right now there are two colors: White when tasks are in progress, and green otherwise. It should be easy enough to turn that into three colors: (1) when tasks are in progress, (2) when task are loaded or waiting but not in progress, and (3) when there are no current tasks (like for k < 1200 now).

Although it is not hard to understand the table as it is now, in my opinion.

I am not sure if some k can be so light-weight that occasionally no tasks exist in a "load" even though the 1200 < k < 10000.

/JeppeSN

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (370,134)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (18,910)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,570)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,551)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,042,311)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (26,371)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (183,524)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (59,307)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,878)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (195,905)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (19,925)321 Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,667)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (72,774)
Message 139854 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 15:28:13 UTC - in response to Message 139850.

Currently there are three green k's for PPSE: 3125, 3375, and 4847. The first two have been tested (with both odd and even n) in the early stages of PPS-DIV, so they are done through n=3.322M. The last just has low weight. The same happens in the MEGA table, for example, for k=4861.

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Message 139855 - Posted: 24 Apr 2020 | 16:43:52 UTC - in response to Message 139854.

Currently there are three green k's for PPSE: 3125, 3375, and 4847. The first two have been tested (with both odd and even n) in the early stages of PPS-DIV, so they are done through n=3.322M. The last just has low weight. The same happens in the MEGA table, for example, for k=4861.


Yes, so you found an example of that! So once in a while, rows in the "active" interval 1200 < k < 10000 would get the color (3). There is probably nothing we could do about it. But we could still have three colors, if we wanted. /JeppeSN

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Message 139861 - Posted: 25 Apr 2020 | 1:55:51 UTC

Using 3 colours appears to be supported, as a light-blue is already used on the PSP and ESP status pages.
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Message 140022 - Posted: 2 May 2020 | 13:24:17 UTC

SR5 already has three colors:

/JeppeSN

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Message 140038 - Posted: 2 May 2020 | 19:04:29 UTC

We'll think if something can be improved here, but please understand that there is a major difference between PPS Mega and conjecture projects like SR5.

On conjecture project, it clear to find out is this k "active" or "inactive' - it becomes inactive when a prime is found, so no tasks in inactive state means that we've done with this k and it can be colored green. An active k without tasks is colored yellow.

In PPS Mega all k's are always active and running forever from server's point of view (technically, it ends where our sieving data ends, but it's at 12M - very, very, far in the future). k's from 3 to 1200 are not complete - it's a temporary admin's decision to not load new work into these k's. Some k's were temporary shared with DIV project. And so on, so forth. But server knows only two states: "have work" - "no work", and it not aware about all these little evil details.

We can color these lines yellow, if it makes more sense - to show that work on them be continued at any time. And use green color only for k's which will never be running again because physical limit of the range has been reached or prime has been found for conjecture.

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