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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,114)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,642,050)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,645,567)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,037,630)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,032,821)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,902,645)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,455,703)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,888,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 137078 - Posted: 1 Feb 2020 | 22:16:52 UTC

We've reached the software b limit for GFN-16 on a CPU. These tasks are no longer available.

GPU tasks are still available.

This only affects GFN-16.

If you currently have CPU tasks selected for GFN-16, you won't be getting any more of them, so you'll have to select something else to run on your CPU.
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Found 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (593,283)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (611,298)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (174,818)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,799)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (16,548,684)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (428,457)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (466,812)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,142)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (112,277)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (342,501)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,455)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (175,037)PPS Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (10,113)AP 26/27 Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (12,129)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,228,147)WW Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (9,640,000)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 137143 - Posted: 3 Feb 2020 | 14:05:16 UTC

It would probably be possible to configure GFN-16 to use LLR when running on a CPU. LLR can handle extremely high b values. But I guess it is too slow to be worth the effort. /JeppeSN

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,114)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,642,050)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,645,567)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,037,630)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,032,821)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,902,645)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,455,703)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,888,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 137149 - Posted: 3 Feb 2020 | 15:28:08 UTC - in response to Message 137143.

It would probably be possible to configure GFN-16 to use LLR when running on a CPU. LLR can handle extremely high b values. But I guess it is too slow to be worth the effort. /JeppeSN


They do not produce compatible residues:

C:\bench>genefer_windows64 -q "1234^4096+1" genefer 3.3.4 (Windows/CPU/64-bit) Testing 1234^4096+1... Using FMA3 transform 1234^4096+1 is composite. (RES=244d1535d39789b7) (12663 digits) (err = 0.0000) (time = 0:00:02) 10:22:44 C:\bench>llr64 -d -q"1234^4096+1" Base factorized as : 2*617 Base prime factor(s) taken : 617 Starting N-1 prime test of 1234^4096+1 Using all-complex FMA3 FFT length 2K, a = 3 1234^4096+1 is not prime. RES64: 378B6BA67180D76A. OLD64: A6A242F354828639 Time : 2.515 sec.


While running genefer with "-p" produces the same residue as LLR, I'm not sure if there's a way to get LLR to produce a residue that matches Genefer's PRP test.
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Message 137153 - Posted: 3 Feb 2020 | 16:44:10 UTC - in response to Message 137149.

It would probably be possible to configure GFN-16 to use LLR when running on a CPU. LLR can handle extremely high b values. But I guess it is too slow to be worth the effort. /JeppeSN

While running genefer with "-p" produces the same residue as LLR, I'm not sure if there's a way to get LLR to produce a residue that matches Genefer's PRP test.

genefer can generate LLR residues:

geneferocl_windows.exe -llr -q "1234^4096+1"
1234^4096+1 is composite. (RES=244d1535d39789b7 RES64=022A9B06450EF6F8) (12663 digits) (err = 0.0000)

cllr64.exe -d -q"1234^4096+1" -oFBase=2
1234^4096+1 is not prime. RES64: 022A9B06450EF6F8.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 2 mega primesFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2020 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2021 Tour de PrimesFound 2 primes in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 mega prime in the 2022 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2022 Tour de Primes Mountain Stage321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,638,389)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,038,114)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,890)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,094,541)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,642,050)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,956,186)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,067,618)SR5 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,645,567)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,037,630)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,084,329)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,032,821)321 Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,196)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (22,885,121)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,902,645)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,455,703)WW Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,888,000)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (12,445,029)
Message 137162 - Posted: 3 Feb 2020 | 19:57:32 UTC - in response to Message 137153.

It would probably be possible to configure GFN-16 to use LLR when running on a CPU. LLR can handle extremely high b values. But I guess it is too slow to be worth the effort. /JeppeSN

While running genefer with "-p" produces the same residue as LLR, I'm not sure if there's a way to get LLR to produce a residue that matches Genefer's PRP test.

genefer can generate LLR residues:

geneferocl_windows.exe -llr -q "1234^4096+1"
1234^4096+1 is composite. (RES=244d1535d39789b7 RES64=022A9B06450EF6F8) (12663 digits) (err = 0.0000)

cllr64.exe -d -q"1234^4096+1" -oFBase=2
1234^4096+1 is not prime. RES64: 022A9B06450EF6F8.


Ok, it's theoretically possible. The same could be said of GFN-15, and GFN-17-MEGA.

I don't see it happening, however. Somebody would need to have a really good explanation for why bringing a NerfTM ball to a gunfight is so important. :)
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Message 137177 - Posted: 4 Feb 2020 | 3:02:22 UTC - in response to Message 137162.

Ok, it's theoretically possible. The same could be said of GFN-15, and GFN-17-MEGA.

I don't see it happening, however. Somebody would need to have a really good explanation for why bringing a NerfTM ball to a gunfight is so important. :)


Nerf--TM...不不不不不

Just a side question, but then why are GFN22/20/19 CPU versions here? Virtully no one would be crunching them unless they're running 24/7. But most people crunching 24/7 know better to crunch a SoB using that much time since the GPUs(machine guns) are so much quicker than CPUs(NerfTM ball).
Therefore, IMHO PG should just altogether cancel CPU-GFN for all GFN except GFN21&22, which could potentially support MTing. I don't know all the info behind the scenes so point out any errors I have in my thinking!
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Message 137183 - Posted: 4 Feb 2020 | 4:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 137177.

Just a side question, but then why are GFN22/20/19 CPU versions here?


Not everyone has a GPU, so we permit it where possible. It doesn't mean it's a good idea to run it.

The exception is DYFL -- that's simply too slow, so we don't allow it even though it would run.
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Message 137228 - Posted: 5 Feb 2020 | 1:42:44 UTC
Last modified: 5 Feb 2020 | 1:43:15 UTC

My computers have only one GPU (or none) but many CPU cores. As I am trying to increase WUProp application hours I find it convenient to run the long running WUs on the GPU and the short running WUs on a few CPU cores. The funny thing is even when running GFN tasks on my CPU I still occasionally turn mine in before the final wingman.

I have also noticed that while GFN-17 Mega run at near 100% on my 1660 Ti, the GFN-16s can't get above 75% GPU utilization.
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