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Profile Bob Hurd
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Message 128817 - Posted: 17 Apr 2019 | 23:37:41 UTC

Can you hide that the BOINC Manager is running? I'd like to run it on some machines without notifying the user that there is an application burning through their CPU time.

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Message 128818 - Posted: 18 Apr 2019 | 0:59:00 UTC - in response to Message 128817.
Last modified: 18 Apr 2019 | 1:00:49 UTC

Can you hide that the BOINC Manager is running? I'd like to run it on some machines without notifying the user that there is an application burning through their CPU time.


You can install it as a service (in windows). The BOINC website has instructions.
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC


If you do so, and you run Primegrid, you are violating the rules set out here:
http://www.primegrid.com/info.php

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Message 128819 - Posted: 18 Apr 2019 | 1:02:26 UTC - in response to Message 128817.

Before looking into the technical side of your question, are you sure your request complies with PirmeGrid's rules and policies : https://www.primegrid.com/info.php ?
And more to the point :
Run PrimeGrid only on computers that you own, or for which you have obtained the owner's permission. Some companies and schools have policies that prohibit using their computers for projects such as PrimeGrid.

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Message 128820 - Posted: 18 Apr 2019 | 2:11:30 UTC

Also be aware that PrimeGrid's apps are very power hungry, and on most computers will cause the fans to run at high speed. The noise may disturb the users. This applies to PrimeGrid much more than other projects.

As the others have said, you must have permission to run BOINC on someone else's computers. People have lost their jobs for less.

Finally, if you do run it as a service, you won't be able to run GPU apps on that computer. But I certainly would not run GPU apps without telling the user. Those often cause significant and very noticeable screen lag.
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Message 128825 - Posted: 18 Apr 2019 | 8:47:10 UTC
Last modified: 18 Apr 2019 | 8:55:35 UTC

Company policies and job stuff aside, it should simply be common courtesy to ask for permission and not "Borg" (to use a term I've seen around the BOINCsphere) computers like that. You're basically stealing electricity and damaging BOINC's reputation.
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Message 128828 - Posted: 18 Apr 2019 | 10:12:45 UTC - in response to Message 128825.

"Borg"


I haven't heard that before. Very appropriate.

By the way, the OP never said he didn't has permission or authority do this. (He also didn't say that he did have permission/authority.)

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Message 130062 - Posted: 1 Jun 2019 | 21:42:52 UTC - in response to Message 128828.

Thank you for answering, everyone!

I do, in fact, have permission to use the computer that I want to run BOINC on. Thus, no ethical conundrum.

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