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Message 105665 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017 | 12:30:23 UTC

I ran it a bit to compare CPUs recently, and haven't switched away yet. That reminded me, if my memory is correct we still need more work before the LLR project could be started effectively.

http://www.primegrid.com/stats_gcw_sieve.php

Looking at the above link I can see some bases have already reached optimal and no more work is running for now, and for most of the others there's around 4500 tests with 1500 outstanding. Is that indicative of remaining work before LLR can start, or is that just the work that is currently generated, and more will be generated until stopped?

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321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,014,631)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,041,185)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,060,837)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,006,814)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,052,020)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,617,961)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,423,909)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,328,868)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,000,455)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,068,214)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,082,879)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,002,919)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,177,238)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,326,793)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,341,676)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,070,804)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,648,165)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (26,012,537)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (347,601,926)
Message 105671 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017 | 13:38:30 UTC - in response to Message 105665.

It's just the work that's currently generated. Some bases, like 69, will be sieving for a very long time yet.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,250)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (106,436)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,710)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,946)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,169)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (111,860)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (117,142)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,160)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,023)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (103,439)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,622)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (501,968)PPS Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,002,564)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,162)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,031)AP 26/27 Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,006,707)GFN Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,000,083)
Message 105677 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017 | 15:00:12 UTC

A shame this "mysterious entity" soon to provide so much computing power didn't choose this sieve.

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Message 105679 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017 | 15:40:03 UTC - in response to Message 105671.

I'll see if I can keep some power on this then... a good use for Ryzen...

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,719)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,179,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,330,821)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,254,873)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,153,211)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,048,315)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,680,461)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,183,026)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,175,834)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,881,239)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (42,508,532)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,028,791)
Message 105684 - Posted: 6 Mar 2017 | 16:09:40 UTC - in response to Message 105677.

A shame this "mysterious entity" soon to provide so much computing power didn't choose this sieve.


It was our choice.

At the time decision was made, GCW sieve was not yet available, and therefore wasn't an option.
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Message 107297 - Posted: 25 Apr 2017 | 16:03:41 UTC - in response to Message 105684.

So bases 109, 41 and 73 were all turned off during the course of the challenge at the beginning of the year because they had been sieved far enough to allow LLR to start ("first optimal" depth.)

With the addition of the anonymous computers to this project while TRP finishes cleanup, I see that all three of those bases have many many tasks currently being processed.

Does this mean that all of the bases have now reached the "first optimal" depth that will allow LLR to start up soon?

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Message 107308 - Posted: 25 Apr 2017 | 17:57:46 UTC - in response to Message 107297.

So bases 109, 41 and 73 were all turned off during the course of the challenge at the beginning of the year because they had been sieved far enough to allow LLR to start ("first optimal" depth.)

With the addition of the anonymous computers to this project while TRP finishes cleanup, I see that all three of those bases have many many tasks currently being processed.

Does this mean that all of the bases have now reached the "first optimal" depth that will allow LLR to start up soon?


That's exactly what it means. We're now sufficiently sieved to open up GCW-LLR. Jim and I are making the final preparations to bring it live. I don't have a date yet, but I expect it to be somewhere between a few days and a few weeks. Amongst other items, I believe there's still a handful of GCW tasks running on PRPNet. We need to let those finish or timeout.
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Message 110514 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 5:09:55 UTC - in response to Message 107308.

There are still GCW Sieve tasks still available here at PrimeGrid. I'm currently running 8 of them.

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Message 110518 - Posted: 28 Sep 2017 | 12:59:02 UTC - in response to Message 110514.

There are still GCW Sieve tasks still available here at PrimeGrid. I'm currently running 8 of them.


And there will be for quite a few years. GCW-Sieve is not shutting down anytime soon.

There's been 3, maybe 4 different flavors of GCW running in the last year, and perhaps that is causing some confusion:

1) GCW-LLR on PRPNet: This is now turned off after being replaced by (3) below.

2) GCW-Sieve on BOINC, initial sieving: The early part of the sieve was to make sure we were sufficiently sieved to start running GCW-LLR on BOINC. This meant a sufficient sieve depth to support testing GCW-LLR up to candidates of 4 million digits. Once that depth was met, GCW-LLR was stopped on PRPNet (1) and started on BOINC (3). The sieve kept running however -- see (4) below.

3) GCW-LLR on BOINC: Started once (2) above was sieved to a sufficient depth. Replaced (1) above.

4) GCW-Sieve on BOINC, continuing sieving: will continue to sieve GCW to a depth sufficient for testing candidates of 15 million digits.

(3) and (4) are currently active and will be active for years to come.

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