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Profile Krzysiak_PL_GDA
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Credit: 173,620,901
RAC: 119,418
321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,190,812)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,358,709)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,114,418)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,926)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,589,897)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,387,030)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,380,683)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,487,849)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,363,303)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,285,226)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,519,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (45,056)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,946)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,176,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,258)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,776)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,303,131)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,632,621)
Message 105568 - Posted: 4 Mar 2017 | 9:13:56 UTC


The problem with being short, or sometimes with a computer

I 2xe5-2683v3 and count only on cpu
HT is disabled in bios

I had to stop half of the samples, the computer would not have given their counsel to complete the allotted time.

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=511791621

http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=514572158


Comparing with other CPU something blocking the conversion

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (48,835)ESP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,226)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (606,650)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (132,293)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,010)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (14,746)PSA Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,290)
Message 105579 - Posted: 4 Mar 2017 | 15:32:11 UTC - in response to Message 105568.

Are you aware of variable deadlines with which I believe your allotted time will be extended as long as you keep providing some progress on each work unit? /JeppeSN

Profile Krzysiak_PL_GDA
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,190,812)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,358,709)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,114,418)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,926)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,589,897)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,387,030)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,380,683)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,487,849)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,363,303)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,285,226)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,519,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (45,056)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,946)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,176,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,258)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,776)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,303,131)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,632,621)
Message 105610 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017 | 11:29:06 UTC

Problem is:

Cullen Prime Search

2x e5-2670 - 70 godzin and finish
2x e5-2683 passed 119 hours, and is only 42%

computer work Win10 Pro


This problem does not occur when converting samples Sophie Germain Prime Search, or Proth Prime Search Extended
Even 2xe5-2683 counts faster

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,029,985)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (571,506)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (185,054)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (194,746)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (530,935)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,190,174)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,201,813)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (292,115)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (742,845)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (675,047)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,154,682)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,255)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,001,013)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,713,575)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,684,329)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,004,347)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,080,762)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (233,062)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,348,340)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (211,605,098)
Message 105611 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017 | 12:03:08 UTC

Memory bandwith is insufficient.

Profile Krzysiak_PL_GDA
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,190,812)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,358,709)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,114,418)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,926)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,589,897)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,387,030)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,380,683)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,487,849)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,363,303)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,285,226)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,519,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (45,056)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,946)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,176,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,258)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,776)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,303,131)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,632,621)
Message 105612 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017 | 12:21:41 UTC


How to fix it
More RAM
Turn off swap hard disk
or ?

Profile toms83
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,029,985)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (571,506)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (185,054)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (194,746)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (530,935)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,190,174)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,201,813)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (292,115)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (742,845)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (675,047)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,154,682)321 Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,004,255)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,001,013)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,713,575)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (65,684,329)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,004,347)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,080,762)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (233,062)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,348,340)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (211,605,098)
Message 105624 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017 | 16:47:21 UTC

14 Wu's at once it's too many even for quad channel, fast speed memory. The bigger work unit or/and more off them the more bandwith we need.

Profile Krzysiak_PL_GDA
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321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,190,812)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,358,709)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,114,418)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,416,926)PPS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,589,897)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,387,030)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,380,683)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,487,849)SGS LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,363,303)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,285,226)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,519,430)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (45,056)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,822,946)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (23,176,595)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (16,258)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,776)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,303,131)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,632,621)
Message 105632 - Posted: 5 Mar 2017 | 18:37:44 UTC

To czemu problem nie występuje przy liczeniu 16 próbek naraz przy konfiguracji 2x e5-2670 ?

This is why the problem does not occur when counting 16 samples at a time when setting up 2x e5-2670?

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TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (96,626)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,384)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,064)
Message 105860 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 6:30:12 UTC

Hello all. I´ve completed 4 tasks for the Woodall LLR.

Two of them have been pending for a long time and will run pass the deadline if no one picks them up for a second pass.

Does this mean my credit goes to waste ?

Thanks,

Thor

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Found 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (860,905)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (506,431)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (818,638)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (513,349)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,427,059)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (555,892)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,077,422)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (909,488)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,410,704)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (765,119)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (532,512)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,321,574)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,738,392)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (528,024)AP 26/27 Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,220,704)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (38,651,246)PSA Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (33,444,152)
Message 105862 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 7:16:14 UTC - in response to Message 105860.
Last modified: 10 Mar 2017 | 7:26:07 UTC

Hello all. I´ve completed 4 tasks for the Woodall LLR.

Two of them have been pending for a long time and will run pass the deadline if no one picks them up for a second pass.

Does this mean my credit goes to waste ?

Thanks,

Thor


No, you've completed it inside the deadline (which automatically extends based on work being done.) It's not a short task I have one running also, you can expect long pending times on tasks that take long times to complete. Months for some tasks like SOB or GFN-22. You will get credit once it's complete without error, and double checked however some "wingman" aka double checkers will abort or take longer to finish or have an unexpected error or just plain not finish. If that happens it will be sent out to a third computer to verify. Some tasks https://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=513701266 will end up going to many users.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,381,937)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,789,310)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,009,213)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (13,942,609)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,216,756)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,680,461)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,104,046)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,885,282)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (51,559,441)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,038,118)
Message 105869 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 12:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 105860.

Hello all. I´ve completed 4 tasks for the Woodall LLR.

Two of them have been pending for a long time and will run pass the deadline if no one picks them up for a second pass.

Does this mean my credit goes to waste ?

Thanks,

Thor


To quote Shakespeare's "Romeo and Juliet" (or "Westworld"), "These violent delights have violent ends". Who knew the Bard knew so much about prime numbers and computers? Replace "violent" with "long" and it accurately describes how this works. :)

Everything we do must be done TWICE to make sure the calculations were correct. Your part is done. As long as your computer didn't malfunction, you'll eventually get credit. "Pending" means we're waiting for the second computer to finish the same task for verification. With long tasks come long waits.

At least there's no poison involved. :)
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TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (96,626)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,384)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (54,064)
Message 105895 - Posted: 10 Mar 2017 | 17:34:06 UTC - in response to Message 105869.

Thanks everyone for swift answers. I appreciate the knowledge you are willing to share with a newcomer.

Thor

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