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Message 6689 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007 | 9:42:48 UTC

Hi All,
I currently have 2 machines running units for the above application and one of them has been processing for 6 hours and the other for 5 hours but they are still showing 0.000% done. Should I leave them alone and will it jump to 100% at the end or should I abort the work?

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Message 6690 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007 | 9:51:21 UTC - in response to Message 6689.

Hi All,
I currently have 2 machines running units for the above application and one of them has been processing for 6 hours and the other for 5 hours but they are still showing 0.000% done. Should I leave them alone and will it jump to 100% at the end or should I abort the work?




Hello.

I have a P3 800 and i take,s about 6-7 hr,s to finnish.
And it shows nothing before ready.

Reg Lennart

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Message 6691 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007 | 10:22:02 UTC
Last modified: 23 Aug 2007 | 10:22:18 UTC

Progress reporting is broken for Cullen workunits, we\'re working on a fix. They will jump to 100% when done.
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Message 6693 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007 | 10:50:50 UTC - in response to Message 6691.

Progress reporting is broken for Cullen workunits, we\'re working on a fix. They will jump to 100% when done.

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Message 6699 - Posted: 23 Aug 2007 | 22:43:24 UTC - in response to Message 6691.

Progress reporting is broken for Cullen workunits, we\'re working on a fix. They will jump to 100% when done.

It\'s no only reporting. The Cullen WUs seem to do no checkpoints.

Norbert

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Message 6721 - Posted: 26 Aug 2007 | 0:41:07 UTC
Last modified: 26 Aug 2007 | 0:45:55 UTC

A week ago one of my Dual hosts completed a llrCUL in 10-12 min. Today I had to stop the same host after running 2 llrCUL´s for more than 3.5 hours each. (The host can\'t run 24/7).
But why are the llrCUL´s suddenly that much longer? - An info from admin before such a major change in running-time, would have been nice. Becouse when you see such a major change as a user, you might think, that something is wrong with your host. (Settings, Manager etc.).
So Info! - Info! - Info please.

As for the missing checkpoint for llrCUL, I can´t see a difference in the way TPS, CUL or WOO are working. Except from a difference in the calculation part of the app. TPS are using checkpoint, so why not CUL?

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Message 6722 - Posted: 26 Aug 2007 | 6:25:15 UTC - in response to Message 6721.
Last modified: 26 Aug 2007 | 6:33:46 UTC

As for the missing checkpoint for llrCUL, I can´t see a difference in the way TPS, CUL or WOO are working. Except from a difference in the calculation part of the app. TPS are using checkpoint, so why not CUL?


I have to answer, and correct, this myself. llrCUL does in fact use checkpoint. When I restarted the Manager the 2 wu´s, I had to stop after 3.5 hours, both completed after 30 min. It´s becouse the indication for cpu-time used starts at 00:00:00 when a llrCUL is resumed, it tricks you to believe, that the wu starts all over from the beginning.

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Message 6724 - Posted: 26 Aug 2007 | 9:16:22 UTC

Cullen/Woodall workunits are getting progressively longer as we go higher in the search range. For example, Woodall workunits now take more than 7 hours on my Core 2 Duo.

All types of workunits should checkpoint every 10 minutes.
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Message 6726 - Posted: 26 Aug 2007 | 12:38:59 UTC

Here are some recent timings for Cullen\'s at n~1.8M

2 hrs 10 min on an Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5345 @ 2.33GHz
2 hrs 40 min on an Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU @ 3.20GHz
2 hrs 49 min on an Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz
2 hrs 55 min on an AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
4 hrs 10 min on an Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU @ 2.00GHz

Cullen\'s are at n~1.8M (1800000)
Woodall\'s are at n~2.63M (2630000)

Cullen\'s are ~25000 tests behind the Woodall\'s. Last week Cullen\'s were at n=250K and ~60,000 tests behind.
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Message 6944 - Posted: 13 Sep 2007 | 15:57:18 UTC

Okay, as long as it\'s only the reporting I don\'t mind. It\'s done when it\'s done. I was just worried it didn\'t checkpoint, which would have been kinda dangerous. Good the message boards are there to give us some facts. :-D

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Message 7177 - Posted: 3 Oct 2007 | 21:17:02 UTC
Last modified: 3 Oct 2007 | 21:45:10 UTC

I\'ve been running two Cullen tasks now that seem to have taken forever. Granted, I\'ve run Cullen before, the most recent took some 12-14 hours each. Now, one task is running at 15+ hours and the other at 22+ hours! Both tasks were given expected completion times of 14+ hours. Since this is of the older 5.07 version, there is no progress bar, so I have no clue when either of these tasks will finally end. There is nothing in the .txt files about anything crashing, and I\'ve actually not truly shut down my computer to prevent BOINC from having issues.

Is this normal? I realize that Cullen (and Woodall) is sending us bigger files because the numbers it\'s crunching are getting larger, but is it getting this much bigger?

I\'m running this on a 2-disc laptop (which is only on for about 4-5 hours/day) using BOINC 5.10.13.

Maybe you can put my mind at ease . . .

UPDATE: The task that was the longer of the two mentioned above took just shy of 23 hours! The expected completion time of the other one has been updated to show an expected CPU time of over 23 hours. Again, is this normal now-a-days?

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Message 20179 - Posted: 28 Dec 2009 | 15:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 7177.

I have the same problem.
My current task will take 223 hours to complete.
The previous one should have taken 123 hours but was completed after i got home from work.

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