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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,863)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,970)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (516,922)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (534,814)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (567,107)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,019,589)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,055,482)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,539)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (532,205)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,910)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,022,336)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,587)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (204,463)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (455,466)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (37,926,771)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,226,498)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,515,247)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (497,289)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,506,619)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (225,555)
Message 78055 - Posted: 13 Jul 2014 | 12:05:47 UTC
Last modified: 13 Jul 2014 | 12:08:03 UTC

I noticed this listed on the front page, though as yet no released work units.

It will, I assume it will be like the Proth Prime Search Extended project and have it's points added to the Proth Prime (LLR) search total?

Also when will it start?

Plus what is different about it over the Proth Prime Search?

Thanks

Conan
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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,115,831)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,035,643)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,691,131)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (824,488)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,086,053)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,578,808)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,038,118)
Message 78056 - Posted: 13 Jul 2014 | 13:05:17 UTC

The PRPNet MEGA project is being moved to BOINC sometime after the current work on PRPNet completes.

It's a PPS project, similar to PPS and PPSE, and as such will share the PPS statistics and badges. It will search exclusively in the area just above 1 million digits, making it an ideal place for people to find mega primes.
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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,863)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,970)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (516,922)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (534,814)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (567,107)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,019,589)SoB LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,055,482)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,539)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (532,205)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,910)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,022,336)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,587)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (204,463)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (455,466)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (37,926,771)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,226,498)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,515,247)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (497,289)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,506,619)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (225,555)
Message 78060 - Posted: 14 Jul 2014 | 0:28:29 UTC

OK, Thanks for that Michael.

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Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,712,185)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,124,261)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,614,891)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (50,611,606)PPS LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,735,161)PSP LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (36,318,010)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,004,651)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (32,288,823)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,771,356)TRP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,004,087)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,824,779)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (680,022)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (27,921,016)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (303,794,520)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,990,608)TRP Sieve (suspended) Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,217,057)AP 26/27 Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,082,145)GFN Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (19,675,941)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (420,544,183)
Message 78140 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014 | 20:34:26 UTC - in response to Message 78056.

The PRPNet MEGA project is being moved to BOINC sometime after the current work on PRPNet completes.

It's a PPS project, similar to PPS and PPSE, and as such will share the PPS statistics and badges. It will search exclusively in the area just above 1 million digits, making it an ideal place for people to find mega primes.

MEGA PRPNet port is empty :D When might we see it activated on BOINC?
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Message 78141 - Posted: 17 Jul 2014 | 21:18:25 UTC - in response to Message 78140.

The PRPNet MEGA project is being moved to BOINC sometime after the current work on PRPNet completes.

It's a PPS project, similar to PPS and PPSE, and as such will share the PPS statistics and badges. It will search exclusively in the area just above 1 million digits, making it an ideal place for people to find mega primes.

MEGA PRPNet port is empty :D When might we see it activated on BOINC?


Now.
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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,614,439)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,440,687)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,019,435)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,332,017)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,074,990)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,433)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,087,062)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,040,727)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,206,074)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,804,962)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,282,622)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,818)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (59,788,598)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,143,068)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (451,735,611)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,130,821)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,074,710)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,450,560)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (112,561,780)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (62,378,755)
Message 78147 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 0:22:06 UTC

Got some!
(Linux, 64-bit)

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p.s. First load of units run-time extrapolates to 50-55 minutes on my 3770K. Initial boinc "estimate" was about 2:16:00. No worries.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,115,831)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,035,643)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,691,131)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (824,488)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,086,053)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,578,808)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,038,118)
Message 78149 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 1:13:36 UTC - in response to Message 78147.

Got some!
(Linux, 64-bit)

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p.s. First load of units run-time extrapolates to 50-55 minutes on my 3770K. Initial boinc "estimate" was about 2:16:00. No worries.


On some CPUs, the workunits have more than one FFT size. On my Haswell i5 3670K, some are 200K and some are 256K. I've seen run times of about 50 minutes and 66 minutes.

Other CPUs will see different FFT sizes. The server (pre-AVX Intel), for example, uses 256K for all of the workunits (no 200K).
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321 LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,043,076)Cullen LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,256,286)ESP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,075,118)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,121,411)PPS LLR Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (54,952,284)PSP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,011,823)SoB LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,053,795)SR5 LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,710,959)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,641,261)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (14,204,693)Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,055,169)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,220)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,710,149)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,061,184)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (57,182,910)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,251,279)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,572,416)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (543,507)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (21,199,917)PSA Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (248,258,813)
Message 78151 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 1:48:14 UTC - in response to Message 78147.

Just for comparison - 1 PPSE, 2 PPS and 1 Mega running concurrently

AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 960T @ 3.7GHz Ubuntu 64b v13.10
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168 min. (10,110 sec.)
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Discovered 1 mega prime321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,614,439)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,440,687)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,019,435)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,332,017)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,074,990)PSP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,000,433)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,087,062)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,040,727)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,206,074)TRP LLR Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (11,804,962)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,282,622)321 Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,818)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (59,788,598)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,143,068)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (451,735,611)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,130,821)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,074,710)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,450,560)GFN Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (112,561,780)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (62,378,755)
Message 78161 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 10:09:34 UTC - in response to Message 78149.

Got some!
(Linux, 64-bit)

--G
p.s. First load of units run-time extrapolates to 50-55 minutes on my 3770K. Initial boinc "estimate" was about 2:16:00. No worries.


On some CPUs, the workunits have more than one FFT size. On my Haswell i5 3670K, some are 200K and some are 256K. I've seen run times of about 50 minutes and 66 minutes.

Other CPUs will see different FFT sizes. The server (pre-AVX Intel), for example, uses 256K for all of the workunits (no 200K).

Roger that. After my first (small) batch, I had some complete in the 50+ minute range, some in the 65+ minute range. Not unexpected.
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Found 2 primes in the 2018 Tour de Primes321 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,008,573)Cullen LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,005,909)ESP LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,003,216)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,191,658)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,808,247)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,638,992)SoB LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,851,996)SR5 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,004,172)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,583,110)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,000,132)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (3,007,050)321 Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (96,972)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (268,250)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,502)PPS Sieve Double Silver: Earned 200,000,000 credits (266,666,326)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,133)TRP Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,000,970)AP 26/27 Double Bronze: Earned 100,000,000 credits (100,003,605)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (99,999,893)PSA Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (93,273,378)
Message 78172 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 18:12:56 UTC

Got a few of these for a brief break from ESP charge to amethyst. Only got a few so far but they're all resends already - why? Are people breaking them already?

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,115,831)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,035,643)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,691,131)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (824,488)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,086,053)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,578,808)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,038,118)
Message 78173 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 18:41:44 UTC - in response to Message 78172.

Got a few of these for a brief break from ESP charge to amethyst. Only got a few so far but they're all resends already - why? Are people breaking them already?


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Got a few of these for a brief break from ESP charge to amethyst. Only got a few so far but they're all resends already - why? Are people breaking them already?


It only takes a few bad computers to generate thousands and thousands of errors.


I'm going to stick with this then for a bit & blitz what I can. Will delay next badge until birthday...

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Message 78177 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 19:29:01 UTC

Is there a badge for Mega or goes all into PPS?

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Message 78179 - Posted: 18 Jul 2014 | 19:33:29 UTC - in response to Message 78177.

Is there a badge for Mega or goes all into PPS?


It's part of PPS, so it shares the stats and badge with PPS and PPSE.
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Message 92666 - Posted: 2 Mar 2016 | 22:10:51 UTC

Hello,

what CPU is better for crunshing PPS-Mega (LLR)

i can get cheap a workstartion with xeon E5 2670 Sandy Bridge 8 Core.

or is better a selfasselmbled new rig with

Skylake Xeon E3-1275 v5 or 6700K ?

Thanks
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Message 92669 - Posted: 2 Mar 2016 | 22:16:09 UTC - in response to Message 92666.

Hello,

what CPU is better for crunshing PPS-Mega (LLR)

i can get cheap a workstartion with xeon E5 2670 Sandy Bridge 8 Core.

or is better a selfasselmbled new rig with

Skylake Xeon E3-1275 v5 or 6700K ?

Thanks

Can you afford the cheapest 5820k + x99 + 4x4 gb of DDR4? The price should be pretty similar to a 6700k setup, depending on where you live.... if so, it's going to trounce the 6700k with it's 2 extra cores and twice the RAM bandwidth.

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General requirements for MEGA is as long as you can provide at least 2MB/core cache, then you simply want the most combined core clock speed possible. If you go below 2MB/core cache, you hit a performance wall in ram speeds.

Based on my recent testing of processor scaling, assuming each of these processors is run at base clock with no overclocking or turbo, the i7-6700k would be the fastest, the E3 at 90% relative overall throughput, and E5 76% relative. If you stretch to the 5820k, that would be 109%.

If you overclock, it becomes a 2 horse race between the two i7 processors.

As a long term consideration, the FFT size wont stay at 256k forever. When it requires the next size up, the ideal cache per core will increase also. Here the i7-5820k would have an advantage at 2.5MB/core. The E5 would also similarly benefit. They wont get faster, but the 2MB/core CPUs will get slower at that point.

As a final consideration, do you need one fast system, or would multiple cheaper systems also be a possibility? It will have to be worked out on value but two 4MB cache i3-6xxx series systems could be interesting.

Can you afford the cheapest 5820k + x99 + 4x4 gb of DDR4? The price should be pretty similar to a 6700k setup, depending on where you live.... if so, it's going to trounce the 6700k with it's 2 extra cores and twice the RAM bandwidth.


For MEGA, that's not entirely the case. Locally to me, the 6700k and 5820k are same ball park cost, X99 mobo is comparable to a high end Z170, and ram would be practically same cost. Skylake has about 14% IPC advantage over Haswell in repeated testing I've done. At stock the 5820k is rated at 140W compared to 91W of 6700k for only 9% estimated total throughput advantage. That's before you think about overclocking them. Ram bandwidth is not important to MEGA for now, but could be in future for reasons above.

If you look at projects bigger than MEGA, then the advantage starts to swing more in favour of the 5820k, especially with overclocking as the core count and ram bandwidth will outweigh Skylakes IPC advantage. Having written all that, why have I got 3 skylake-k and no 5820s? My excuse: I bought the Skylakes before I tested the Intel memory architecture to death and then some.

Random consideration: Broadwell i5-5675C has 128MB L4 cache so runs pretty much same speed regardless of job size. It has comparable IPC to Haswell (measured at 6% less) but as i5 CPU you could get that, a Z97 mobo and any old cheap ram for comparable cost to the i7 CPU only. Problem is you will have to overclock it to get it really going, and they're not considered great overclockers even though they have unlocked multipliers.

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Message 106212 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 15:01:24 UTC

How many tests are needed in the original Proth Prime Search before it gets to the range covered by Mega Proth Prime Search?

Has there been any recent challenges for Proth Prime Search (excluding Mega and Extended versions)? As far as I can tell there hasn't been a PPS only challenge in three years.

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Message 106214 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 15:36:12 UTC - in response to Message 106212.

How many tests are needed in the original Proth Prime Search before it gets to the range covered by Mega Proth Prime Search?

Has there been any recent challenges for Proth Prime Search (excluding Mega and Extended versions)? As far as I can tell there hasn't been a PPS only challenge in three years.

This should answer you:
4. PPSE is not available for challenges. (PPSE is what's pushing SGS off the T5K list, and we do not want to exacerbate that process.)


http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=7156&nowrap=true#101705

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Message 106215 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 15:49:21 UTC - in response to Message 106212.

Has there been any recent challenges for Proth Prime Search (excluding Mega and Extended versions)? As far as I can tell there hasn't been a PPS only challenge in three years.


There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.

By the time we start thinking about the 2018 challenges, keeping SGS on the T5K list should be a moot point, so there should no longer any reason to exclude either in the future.

I do not know the answer to your question about how many PPS tasks remain.
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Message 106220 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 17:04:50 UTC - in response to Message 106215.

There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.


I Interpret this to mean "we would prefer to push other projects T5K entries off the list, but not our own." Is that correct?

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Message 106221 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 17:14:55 UTC - in response to Message 106220.

There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.


I Interpret this to mean "we would prefer to push other projects T5K entries off the list, but not our own." Is that correct?


No it is not.
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Message 106222 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 17:21:36 UTC - in response to Message 106220.

A search for primes containing 2^1290000 gives 283 hits spanning position 4718 to 5000. So, any prime entering T5000 above that will be knocking off SGS.

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Message 106224 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 18:41:48 UTC - in response to Message 106222.

A search for primes containing 2^1290000 gives 283 hits spanning position 4718 to 5000. So, any prime entering T5000 above that will be knocking off SGS.

Yeah, couple more GFN16 primes and megaprimes and that's it for SGS.
(every new SGS goes in front of older SGS, it does no harm pushing SGS off T5K)
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Message 106225 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 18:50:12 UTC - in response to Message 106221.

There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.


I Interpret this to mean "we would prefer to push other projects T5K entries off the list, but not our own." Is that correct?


No it is not.


Ok, then how should

There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.


be interpreted?

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Message 106226 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 19:02:34 UTC - in response to Message 106225.

There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.


I Interpret this to mean "we would prefer to push other projects T5K entries off the list, but not our own." Is that correct?


No it is not.


Ok, then how should

There's been a moratorium on PPS and PPSE challenges as we wished to delay SGS being pushed off the bottom of the T5K list for as long as possible.


be interpreted?


It doesn't address outside projects at all. It should be interpreted as "We don't want PPSE (which produces a lot of primes) to push SGS (which currently is at the bottom) off the list."

What's with all the antagonism? What's your point? You started by asking, effectively, "Can we please have a PPS challenge?", to which the answer was "Yes.", and you followed up by trying, twice, to pick a fight. I'm at a loss to understand why. Is there something we're doing that you would prefer we not do? Is there something we're not doing that you would like us to do?
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Message 106227 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 20:01:10 UTC - in response to Message 106226.

What's with all the antagonism? What's your point? You started by asking, effectively, "Can we please have a PPS challenge?", to which the answer was "Yes.", and you followed up by trying, twice, to pick a fight. I'm at a loss to understand why. Is there something we're doing that you would prefer we not do? Is there something we're not doing that you would like us to do?


I'm sorry for being antagonistic. This is mainly due to a very negative interaction I had with one of your admin's when I was maintaining ProthSearch. I got the distinct impression that PrimeGrid (either the admins or the community) was all about PrimeGrid and "to hell with everyone else". I think you can understand why I interpreted your sentence as I did, even though you were not the admin I had difficulty with.

As for a PPS challenge, I think that one is long overdue. I also think that PrimeGrid should consider combining some projects, specifically ones that are very closely linked. A PPS challenge would go a long way to merging PPS and PPS Mega. IMO, Cullen and Woodall could be combined.

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Message 106228 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 20:43:55 UTC - in response to Message 106227.

I will never understand what is so special about primes. Everyone today, can make sieve, can make search in any range, and report any prime that is found. Currently there is 275 primes missed above SGS , to remove SGS from TOP 5000. So what: people can always take PPSE, will find prime in similar speed that will find SGS prime today.
Or you can use NEWPGEN and make own sieve file with only few digits above in exponent: for example 1290005. Any prime found will be bigger then SGS:and will push all SGS primes.

SGS primes was long enough on Top 5000: let they make place for new ones.
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Message 106229 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 20:56:43 UTC - in response to Message 106227.


I'm sorry for being antagonistic. This is mainly due to a very negative interaction I had with one of your admin's when I was maintaining ProthSearch. I got the distinct impression that PrimeGrid (either the admins or the community) was all about PrimeGrid and "to hell with everyone else". I think you can understand why I interpreted your sentence as I did, even though you were not the admin I had difficulty with.

As for a PPS challenge, I think that one is long overdue. I also think that PrimeGrid should consider combining some projects, specifically ones that are very closely linked. A PPS challenge would go a long way to merging PPS and PPS Mega. IMO, Cullen and Woodall could be combined.


Well, I sure hope that I am not the admin who had the negative interaction. If it was me, it certainly wasn't intended.

As for PrimeGrid's attitude towards other projects, I'd say that we are very far from a "to hell with everyone else" attitude. PG has partnered with more than one search, and I'd argue that the now live (as soon as the leading edge cache has cleared) SOB double check is a great example of how we value the work with other prime searching projects and want to see them succeed. That said, PG is a real handful to manage, so a lack of time/availability/etc might easily be mistaken for a lack of concern.

As for a PPS challenge, I am certainly all for it. Indeed, if anyone would be, it should be me since I have crunched more individual PPS workunits than anyone else (just shy of 9.4 million). But even I am in agreement with no PPS challenge until SGS falls out of the top 5k. There is a lot of work already done with sieving that should be gone through, and once the project drops out of the top 5k, a number of participants in PG will move on for the chance of having a top 5k find. Many may stay on, but the SGS progress will naturally be slower.

Once we reach the SGS off the top 5k point, I agree that PPS should get a push to move it towards a merge with PPS Mega.

As for Cullen and Woodall being combined, I am sure that admins will discuss it, but I am doubtful that we would combine them at this point.

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Message 106230 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 21:08:53 UTC - in response to Message 106227.

I got the distinct impression that PrimeGrid (either the admins or the community) was all about PrimeGrid and "to hell with everyone else". I think you can understand why I interpreted your sentence as I did, even though you were not the admin I had difficulty with.


I can't speak to the past, only to the present and the future.

As far as I'm concerned, other than perhaps some friendly competition, there is no "us" nor "them". We're all working towards the same goals, and in many, many ways it's in everyone's best interests to cooperate and help each other.

We all share our software freely. Both of us have written software that is available to anyone who wishes to use it.

When Rebirther was setting up SRBase, I offered him access to any of the systems we built as the "special sauce" that makes everything run beyond the bare BOINC essentials. I don't view CRUS or SRBase as competitors or adversaries.

As for a PPS challenge, I think that one is long overdue.


I agree.

I also think that PrimeGrid should consider combining some projects, specifically ones that are very closely linked. A PPS challenge would go a long way to merging PPS and PPS Mega.


Like I said, I don't have the exact numbers, but I think we're a long, long ways from PPS getting to a million digits. Let me see if I can dredge up some rough numbers...

Okay, assuming the density remains constant, there's about 130,000 candidates for every 10,000 increase in 'n'. 'N' is currently about 2,460,000, and needs to go to about 3,320,000 to catch up to PPS-MEGA. That's an increase in n of 860,000, which should be about 11,180,000 candidates. Including double checking, that's 22,360,000 tasks. In the last 24 hours 7646 PPS tasks were completed. 22360000/7646 equals 2924 days, or almost exactly 8 years.

It will take a bit more than a challenge to speed that up significantly.

IMO, Cullen and Woodall could be combined.


That's a possibility. The biggest problem with that is that lots of people will be unhappy about losing a badge.
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That's a possibility. The biggest problem with that is that lots of people will be unhappy about losing a badge.


Or not. Combine the existing credits, and I'd be only 2 million credits shy of an emerald badge on the combined projects. I would lose a sapphire badge, but gain an emerald with a little work -- I'll take that!
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Message 106235 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 23:08:37 UTC - in response to Message 106230.

Like I said, I don't have the exact numbers, but I think we're a long, long ways from PPS getting to a million digits. Let me see if I can dredge up some rough numbers...

Okay, assuming the density remains constant, there's about 130,000 candidates for every 10,000 increase in 'n'. 'N' is currently about 2,460,000, and needs to go to about 3,320,000 to catch up to PPS-MEGA. That's an increase in n of 860,000, which should be about 11,180,000 candidates. Including double checking, that's 22,360,000 tasks. In the last 24 hours 7646 PPS tasks were completed. 22360000/7646 equals 2924 days, or almost exactly 8 years.


Wow. That is a lot of tests. I wonder how many more would be done per day if a week long challenge were issued.

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Message 106236 - Posted: 21 Mar 2017 | 23:27:01 UTC - in response to Message 106235.

Like I said, I don't have the exact numbers, but I think we're a long, long ways from PPS getting to a million digits. Let me see if I can dredge up some rough numbers...

Okay, assuming the density remains constant, there's about 130,000 candidates for every 10,000 increase in 'n'. 'N' is currently about 2,460,000, and needs to go to about 3,320,000 to catch up to PPS-MEGA. That's an increase in n of 860,000, which should be about 11,180,000 candidates. Including double checking, that's 22,360,000 tasks. In the last 24 hours 7646 PPS tasks were completed. 22360000/7646 equals 2924 days, or almost exactly 8 years.


Wow. That is a lot of tests. I wonder how many more would be done per day if a week long challenge were issued.


A really good challenge runs at about 10x normal. It would need to be a really, really, long challenge. Even if we wanted to do something silly like run an 10 month challenge, there's technical reasons why we couldn't do it. And human factors as well. Not many people would be interested in such a long challenge.
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Message 106276 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 15:33:22 UTC - in response to Message 106236.

A really good challenge runs at about 10x normal. It would need to be a really, really, long challenge. Even if we wanted to do something silly like run an 10 month challenge, there's technical reasons why we couldn't do it. And human factors as well. Not many people would be interested in such a long challenge.


That is why I suggested one that runs for a week. People will get bored if a challenge runs too long. Maybe the subset of work for the challenge could focus on a specific set of k to get them to 3,260,000 rather than extending all k within the challenge.

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The "Shut up already!" badge:  This loud mouth has mansplained on the forums over 10 thousand times!  Sheesh!!!Discovered the World's First GFN-19 prime!!!Discovered 1 mega primeFound 1 prime in the 2018 Tour de PrimesFound 1 prime in the 2019 Tour de Primes321 LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,063,182)Cullen LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,005,249)ESP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,001,789)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,115,831)PPS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,768,012)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (30,035,643)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,691,131)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,011,264)TRP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,433,520)Woodall LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,176,414)321 Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (824,488)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,059,304)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (20,110,788)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,086,053)GFN Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (60,578,808)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,038,118)
Message 106277 - Posted: 22 Mar 2017 | 15:41:59 UTC - in response to Message 106276.

Maybe the subset of work for the challenge could focus on a specific set of k to get them to 3,260,000 rather than extending all k within the challenge.


We prefer to not have task sizes jumping around if we can avoid it. It's better to run all Ks simultaneously at the same n level.
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