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Message 71882 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014 | 9:11:50 UTC

It happens for me that the execution takes more than 36 cpu hours and I am not able to report the results before the deadline loosing cpu time and points.
Why is it so restrict for a task that is so long? I have a laptop, I know, but I think that everybody should be able to complete the task, you should at least tell that the task is only for powerful pc!
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Message 71891 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014 | 12:46:14 UTC - in response to Message 71882.

It happens for me that the execution takes more than 36 cpu hours and I am not able to report the results before the deadline loosing cpu time and points.
Why is it so restrict for a task that is so long? I have a laptop, I know, but I think that everybody should be able to complete the task, you should at least tell that the task is only for powerful pc!
Thank you!


The deadline on TRP (LLR ) is 6 days (144 hours) and for TRP-Sieve it's 4 days (96 hours). You didn't say which you're running, but in both cases, that's way more than 36 hours. (I'm guessing it's TRP-LLR because the Sieve tasks are very short.)

I personally run TRP-LLR on a VERY old computer with an ancient 32-bit, single core CPU, and it takes about 4 days for each WU. I don't have a problem with the deadline. The average run time for TRP-LLR tasks is only about 23 hours, so you can see my computer is much, much slower than average, and is about three times slower than your laptop.

If your computer takes 36 hours to run one of these tasks, that's only about 25% of the deadline, so it's not clear what the problem is. If you're not running the laptop 24/7 and can't do 36 hours of crunching within the 6 day deadline, I'd suggest running one of our shorter projects which would be more appropriate to that kind of usage. If I'm misunderstanding the problem, please explain.

(If your computer is reporting that the deadline is shorter than 6 days, it's wrong. Usually the cause of this problem is that the clock (or perhaps the timezone) on your computer is set to the wrong time.)
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Message 71893 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014 | 14:02:38 UTC - in response to Message 71891.

Sorry, I have put the message on the wrong part. I was speaking about PPS(Sieve) 1.39 cpuPPSsieve. The deadline is three days and I need two to complete the task. Would'nt be better to add a day to the deadline?
Sorry for the mistake.

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Message 71896 - Posted: 5 Jan 2014 | 14:17:30 UTC - in response to Message 71893.

Sorry, I have put the message on the wrong part. I was speaking about PPS(Sieve) 1.39 cpuPPSsieve. The deadline is three days and I need two to complete the task. Would'nt be better to add a day to the deadline?
Sorry for the mistake.


These tasks are primarily crunched by people who run on GPUs, and the tasks are sized accordingly. The deadline IS long enough for people to crunch them on a CPU, but you may need to crunch 24/7 to do so. Even mediocre GPUs can do these tasks in under an hour.

If that doesn't fit your needs, we have lots of other projects with shorter tasks.

We will, however, reconsider whether the deadline is appropriate, but I make no promises about when, or if, it might be changed.
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Message 83128 - Posted: 1 Feb 2015 | 10:15:12 UTC
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I guess this WU was sent to me when there wasn't any need to do so, was the deadline just a little too short?
Of course, that's not a problem at all for me, it's just seems a little wasteful.
Cheers,
Peter

P.S. I understand that it isn't about the time to process a WU, but the size of the cache that a user specifies.

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Message 83129 - Posted: 1 Feb 2015 | 11:05:26 UTC

I think the deadline is more than reasonable. The user who returned it late only took about 3,5 hours to complete it, while the deadline seems to be 73 hours.
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Message 83130 - Posted: 1 Feb 2015 | 11:34:54 UTC - in response to Message 83129.
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I think the deadline is more than reasonable. The user who returned it late only took about 3,5 hours to complete it, while the deadline seems to be 73 hours.


Although BOINC allows you to specify deadlines in seconds, the way we do it, it's always an integer number of days. 3 days is 72 hours.

There's an extra "grace period" hour thrown in there -- we tell the host computer it has 72 hours for the task, but don't mark it late until 73.
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