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Message boards : Cullen/Woodall prime search : What does Completed, validation inconclusive actually mean

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Profile John Bode
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,016)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,248)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (187,335)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (69,332)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (33,000)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (449,278)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,935)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,852)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,795,570)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,924,419)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,567)GFN Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (705,600)
Message 41297 - Posted: 3 Oct 2011 | 21:43:00 UTC

Have an llrWOO that two of us have returned with a status of "Completed, validation inconclusive", and have a third in progress on the same task.

What does "What does Completed, validation inconclusive actually mean"
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,692)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,876)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,979)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,018)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,441)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,475)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,939)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,783)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,115)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,459)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,757)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,908,135)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,450,104)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (130,966)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,525)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,015)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (246,369)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,594)
Message 41298 - Posted: 3 Oct 2011 | 21:49:42 UTC - in response to Message 41297.

Same unit to different hosts with different results. A third host should bring the decision, which host returned a faulty result.
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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,016)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (11,248)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (187,335)PSP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (69,332)SoB LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (33,000)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (449,278)TRP LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,935)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (109,852)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,795,570)PPS Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,924,419)TRP Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (23,567)GFN Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (705,600)
Message 41300 - Posted: 3 Oct 2011 | 21:52:06 UTC

TY
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,169,719)Cullen LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,157,331)ESP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,179,211)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,330,821)PPS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,254,873)PSP LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,632,269)SoB LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,130,789)SR5 LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,048,315)SGS LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,680,461)TRP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,183,026)Woodall LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,145,077)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,576)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,170,256)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,085,723)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (18,175,834)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,035,522)TRP Sieve (suspended) Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,051,121)AP 26/27 Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,881,239)GFN Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (42,505,034)PSA Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (10,028,791)
Message 41303 - Posted: 3 Oct 2011 | 22:44:52 UTC - in response to Message 41300.

In essence, it means that at least one of the two computers returned an incorrect result, but it's not known which of the two is wrong. A third computer is therefore sent the same WU, and will presumably match one of the two results.
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,136,963)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (631,861)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (563,238)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (636,964)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,854,093)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,003,501)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (885,628)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (376,520)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,267,582)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (931,333)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (889,435)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,860,153)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (569,619)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,098,822)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,175,857)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (550,424)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (679,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,546,260)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,400)
Message 41615 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011 | 20:49:27 UTC
Last modified: 10 Oct 2011 | 20:50:00 UTC

Please look at this WU: http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=214386299

Three times marked as "Completed, validation inconclusive". How is it possible?

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321 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (500,863)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,970)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (516,922)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (525,084)PPS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (567,107)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (747,225)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (575,648)SR5 LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (522,539)SGS LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (526,218)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (564,910)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (765,488)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,587)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (204,463)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (229,925)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (37,926,771)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,226,498)TRP Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,515,247)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (210,236)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,506,619)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (225,555)
Message 41618 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011 | 21:06:39 UTC - in response to Message 41615.

It is very possible. I have one that has 6 validation inclusive results.
It means that all of them have returned different residues so another is sent out until two of the results match up, those 2 results get credit, then all the other ones are marked as wrong and get no points.

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,136,963)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (631,861)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (563,238)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (636,964)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,854,093)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,003,501)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (885,628)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (376,520)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,267,582)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (931,333)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (889,435)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,860,153)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (569,619)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,098,822)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,175,857)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (550,424)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (679,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,546,260)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,400)
Message 41621 - Posted: 10 Oct 2011 | 22:05:33 UTC - in response to Message 41618.

Thanks for info. I thought that the third result is always conclusive.

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (78,297)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (158,791)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (144,400)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,226)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,905)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (177,569)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (172,304)SR5 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (38,345)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (102,401)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (118,541)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (584,650)321 Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,307)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,096)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (31,680)PPS Sieve Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (311,660)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (20,039)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,597)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (194,685)GFN Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (2,429,487)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (211,837)
Message 41690 - Posted: 12 Oct 2011 | 0:02:32 UTC - in response to Message 41621.

Thanks for info. I thought that the third result is always conclusive.

If several of the machines are severely over-clocked, ALL of them can return invalid (different) results, so all are marked inconclusive.
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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,136,963)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (631,861)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (563,238)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (636,964)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,854,093)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,003,501)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (885,628)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (376,520)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,267,582)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (931,333)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (889,435)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,860,153)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (569,619)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,098,822)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,175,857)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (550,424)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (679,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,546,260)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,400)
Message 44220 - Posted: 2 Dec 2011 | 1:06:16 UTC

Special one: http://www.primegrid.com/workunit.php?wuid=214362067

11x validation inconclusive, 3x Error

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321 LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,136,963)Cullen LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (631,861)ESP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (563,238)Generalized Cullen/Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (636,964)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (8,854,093)PSP LLR Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,003,501)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (885,628)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (376,520)SGS LLR Ruby: Earned 2,000,000 credits (4,267,582)TRP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (931,333)Woodall LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (889,435)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,860,153)Generalized Cullen/Woodall Sieve Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (569,619)PPS Sieve Jade: Earned 10,000,000 credits (17,098,822)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,175,857)TRP Sieve (suspended) Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (550,424)AP 26/27 Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (679,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (7,546,260)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (206,400)
Message 45056 - Posted: 17 Dec 2011 | 10:31:27 UTC - in response to Message 44220.

13x validation inconclusive, 4x Error

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