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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,797)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,837)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,088)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,131,665)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (653,291)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (538,748)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (132,764)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,948)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (328,227)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (32,680)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,659)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,021,564)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,632,081)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,761,921)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,020,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,025,385)
Message 30882 - Posted: 12 Jan 2011 | 20:22:27 UTC

Hi, I understand the 321 sieve does not have very long left to run now before being ended. Does anyone happen to know roughly how much longer it will run for? I'm just curious - would also be nice to get the silver badge if there's time ;-)

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Message 30883 - Posted: 12 Jan 2011 | 20:26:50 UTC

Hi Darryl,

keep an eye on Sub-project "life" expectancy
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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,797)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,837)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,088)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,131,665)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (653,291)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (538,748)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (132,764)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,948)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (328,227)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (32,680)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,659)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,021,564)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,632,081)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,761,921)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,020,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,025,385)
Message 30884 - Posted: 12 Jan 2011 | 20:38:19 UTC - in response to Message 30883.

Thanks - a useful post!

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321 LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (30,797)Cullen LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (13,837)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,088)PPS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,131,665)PSP LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (653,291)SoB LLR Gold: Earned 500,000 credits (538,748)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (132,764)SGS LLR Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,001,948)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (328,227)Woodall LLR Bronze: Earned 10,000 credits (32,680)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (200,659)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (52,021,564)PPS Sieve Emerald: Earned 50,000,000 credits (92,632,081)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Amethyst: Earned 1,000,000 credits (1,761,921)TRP Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,020,224)GFN Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (5,025,385)
Message 33761 - Posted: 3 Mar 2011 | 11:40:45 UTC - in response to Message 30882.

would also be nice to get the silver badge if there's time ;-)


Finally got the 321 sieve silver the other day :-) Can't imagine the subproject has long left now anyway so no point even trying for a gold.

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321 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,692)Cullen LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (104,876)ESP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (101,979)PPS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (148,018)PSP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (140,441)SoB LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (119,475)SR5 LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (120,939)SGS LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (122,783)TRP LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,115)Woodall LLR Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (107,459)321 Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (202,757)Cullen/Woodall Sieve (suspended) Turquoise: Earned 5,000,000 credits (6,908,135)PPS Sieve Sapphire: Earned 20,000,000 credits (25,450,104)Sierpinski (ESP/PSP/SoB) Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (130,966)TRP Sieve (suspended) Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (201,525)AP 26/27 Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (100,015)GFN Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (246,369)PSA Silver: Earned 100,000 credits (226,594)
Message 33789 - Posted: 3 Mar 2011 | 19:29:37 UTC

Please don't ending, i try to get my silver badge.
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Message 34309 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011 | 16:32:29 UTC

4-6 Weeks!

This message explains the sieve is ending in 4-6 weeks. Get your badges NOW!

I'll stay with my gold, since it'd be hard pressed to get the next.


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Message 34310 - Posted: 19 Mar 2011 | 17:04:37 UTC - in response to Message 34309.

It should probably be pointed out that we were first advised of the 321 Sieve shutting down back around August or September of 2010. There's certainly been lots of warning and time to finish off whatever badge one might have been aiming for.
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Message 34449 - Posted: 24 Mar 2011 | 18:22:31 UTC - in response to Message 34310.
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I think I can see why this is coming to an end (suspension).

I've been crunching for 2 days now, gone through 64 work units, and found 2 measly factors.

Using the "Recent average CPU time" as a benchmark (since I haven't done any 321 llr lately), it says a 321 sieve task takes 11:59:21, so my 64 WU would have taken 2,762,304 seconds. With a time of 17:16:02 per LLR work unit, in 2.7 million seconds I could have crunched 44 LLR work units.

So where LLR is eliminating about 22 candidates (when accounting for double checks), sieving is eliminating 2 candidates. Even if I am being extremely unlucky, and should have found TWENTY factors so far, we appear to be past optimal.

If anybody else has been keeping track of recent numbers of factors found, and has 321 LLR and sieve times, we can see how far off my estimates are.

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Message 34578 - Posted: 28 Mar 2011 | 14:42:13 UTC - in response to Message 34449.

Ok. Update to my last post.

Since I started crunching last week, I've done 164 WU, and found 4 factors, for an average of 1 factor every 41 WU. The quickest sieve WU is taking about 7,738 (with the average one being somewhere around 7,775). 41 WU at 7738 seconds each is 317,258 seconds. I ran a 321 LLR on the same computer and it took 88,436 seconds.

This means in the time it took me to crunch the 41 WU required to get a factor, I could have processed 3.587 LLR work units. Since there are 2 WU necessary to complete a LLR, and sometimes more if there is a computation error, that 1 factor probably saves somewhere around 2.1 to 2.3 LLR tasks, so LLRing is still more time effective than sieving right now, but not nearly as much so as my previous post indicated.

Also, this is somewhat of a worst case. The computer I'm crunching both of these with is a Athlon 64 X2 6000+ running a Wubi install of 64 bit Linux, so it's getting the 64-bit benefit on the sieve WU, and the processor is probably on the poorer end of the spectrum when it comes to doing LLR as well.

So it still looks like a good decision to suspend the sieve, but not as much as it did the looking at the average CPU times.

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Message 35413 - Posted: 19 Apr 2011 | 14:33:30 UTC

The gods of PrimeGrid have spoken that the 321 Sieve barrel will never again be filled. No amount of prayer or graft can sway their decision.

It would be nice if everyone was as magnanimous as Pooh Bear 27, tocx and Steve* who have both stopped their 321 Sieving knowing they could not possibly reach the next badge.

Continuing to crunch drains the last remaining pool of candidates that we badge seekers desperately need.

I noticed one chap who already has a Ruby badge crunching away at a rate higher than any other member - please cease and desist so that we mere mortals can get that elusive silver or gold before the barrel is empty.

Nuff said.

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Message 35421 - Posted: 19 Apr 2011 | 16:33:11 UTC - in response to Message 35413.

The gods of PrimeGrid have spoken that the 321 Sieve barrel will never again be filled. No amount of prayer or graft can sway their decision.

It would be nice if everyone was as magnanimous as Pooh Bear 27, tocx and Steve* who have both stopped their 321 Sieving knowing they could not possibly reach the next badge.

Continuing to crunch drains the last remaining pool of candidates that we badge seekers desperately need.

I noticed one chap who already has a Ruby badge crunching away at a rate higher than any other member - please cease and desist so that we mere mortals can get that elusive silver or gold before the barrel is empty.

Nuff said.


Technically, this is not yet happening...I think. I believe that work flow will continue as normal until 4/22 at which point only work units left in the queue (and re-sends) will be available.

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Message 35429 - Posted: 19 Apr 2011 | 21:35:02 UTC - in response to Message 35421.

The gods of PrimeGrid have spoken that the 321 Sieve barrel will never again be filled. No amount of prayer or graft can sway their decision.

It would be nice if everyone was as magnanimous as Pooh Bear 27, tocx and Steve* who have both stopped their 321 Sieving knowing they could not possibly reach the next badge.

Continuing to crunch drains the last remaining pool of candidates that we badge seekers desperately need.

I noticed one chap who already has a Ruby badge crunching away at a rate higher than any other member - please cease and desist so that we mere mortals can get that elusive silver or gold before the barrel is empty.

Nuff said.


Technically, this is not yet happening...I think. I believe that work flow will continue as normal until 4/22 at which point only work units left in the queue (and re-sends) will be available.

Does not matter, anyone who is not actively seeking a badge should quite 321 immediately to leave the WUs for those who are.
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Message 35431 - Posted: 19 Apr 2011 | 22:54:07 UTC - in response to Message 35429.

The gods of PrimeGrid have spoken that the 321 Sieve barrel will never again be filled. No amount of prayer or graft can sway their decision.

It would be nice if everyone was as magnanimous as Pooh Bear 27, tocx and Steve* who have both stopped their 321 Sieving knowing they could not possibly reach the next badge.

Continuing to crunch drains the last remaining pool of candidates that we badge seekers desperately need.

I noticed one chap who already has a Ruby badge crunching away at a rate higher than any other member - please cease and desist so that we mere mortals can get that elusive silver or gold before the barrel is empty.

Nuff said.


Technically, this is not yet happening...I think. I believe that work flow will continue as normal until 4/22 at which point only work units left in the queue (and re-sends) will be available.

Does not matter, anyone who is not actively seeking a badge should quite 321 immediately to leave the WUs for those who are.


Here Rytis says pretty directly that no more work "will be added" after 4/22. I interpret that to mean that normal work load buffers will exist until then, and thus, crunching before then does not effect total work available overall.

...and to be a bit blunt, individuals are quite free to crunch what they like. Badges are great milestones, but they are not necessarily synonymous with the personal goals of every cruncher (e.g., some may crunch for placement rank, others for their own personal numeric goal--say 10 million credits--that are not related to badges, etc.).


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Message 35432 - Posted: 19 Apr 2011 | 23:14:54 UTC - in response to Message 35431.

And, believe it or not, some people crunch because they're simply interested in the project itself and not the credits. :)
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Message 35441 - Posted: 20 Apr 2011 | 11:53:42 UTC

Scott - Blunt is blunt - never a bit blunt :(

"The gods of PrimeGrid have spoken that the 321 Sieve barrel will never again be filled" is a humorous way of saying what Rytis was saying in his Post.

I do not question why other people are still crunching in the dying days of the 321 Sieve. I'm not sure that badges is the full why of my involvement - gosh, even anarchists do what they do for a reason. I simply asked consideration be given for badge chasers so that in the last few hours they have every opportunity for that last badge. No different from PrimeGrid asking people to change their focus towards some challenge goal each month.

So, to be more generic, on the off chance anyone reading this post really doesn't have a 321 Sieving target, please consider changing your preferences away from 321 Sieving so that people who want something (badges, credit targets etc) can get it. There are less that 13000 WUs left as at the time of my post.

I have my Silver now and I hope that other goal seekers get what they are actively seeking before the end.

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Message 35449 - Posted: 20 Apr 2011 | 14:25:33 UTC - in response to Message 35441.

Scott - Blunt is blunt - never a bit blunt :(

"The gods of PrimeGrid have spoken that the 321 Sieve barrel will never again be filled" is a humorous way of saying what Rytis was saying in his Post.

I do not question why other people are still crunching in the dying days of the 321 Sieve. I'm not sure that badges is the full why of my involvement - gosh, even anarchists do what they do for a reason. I simply asked consideration be given for badge chasers so that in the last few hours they have every opportunity for that last badge. No different from PrimeGrid asking people to change their focus towards some challenge goal each month.

So, to be more generic, on the off chance anyone reading this post really doesn't have a 321 Sieving target, please consider changing your preferences away from 321 Sieving so that people who want something (badges, credit targets etc) can get it. There are less that 13000 WUs left as at the time of my post.

I have my Silver now and I hope that other goal seekers get what they are actively seeking before the end.


Sorry to be extra blunt (does that exist?), but you don't seem to be getting it. There are NOT 13,000 WU left. Rytis' post implies that MORE WILL BE ADDED ON THE 22nd. If you're 5,000 WU away from making it, you're actually doing exactly the opposite of what you should.

You SHOULD be encouraging everyone out there who's NOT interested in 321 Sieve to be pulling a 10 day cache of them right now, so the well will magically refill a couple more times before the 22nd. Then after the last refill, have the people w/ a 10 day cache abort all their WU and return them to the pool.

Obviously since we're already well into the optimal range, this isn't the best thing to do for the science, but it would get more WU out there for the badge hunters. (I'll admit I'm trying to get to silver, which is going to require WU flow for about 10 days after the 22nd, but we'll see what happens)

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Message 35456 - Posted: 20 Apr 2011 | 15:19:53 UTC - in response to Message 35449.

Let me see - I have watched three previous projects come to the end of their life and can't remember PrimeGrid leaving it this late to top up the barrel. I have been watching the 321 Sieve sub-project status for the last few days and the rate of decrease suggests Rytis has planned very well that it will just hit zero on his target date. Nothing in the history or immediate past that suggests I don't get it.

In the absence of a last minute top up, having people grab work just to abort it is a bad idea. Assuming that they crunch some of it and no new work comes it will in fact make it less likely goal seekers will achieve their goals even if the get around to aborting what they don't process. Given Easter for many participants aborting might be delayed in the break.

Hopefully Rytis will chime in on this thread - proving you and Scott right and me wrong which would help everyone because of the possible last minute WU injection but until then I hold my view that if your not after a target, let those that are get on with their efforts.

Rytis - where are you? And bring an emergency barrel of fun!

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Message 35475 - Posted: 20 Apr 2011 | 19:33:30 UTC - in response to Message 35456.

When PSP sieve ended late last year they announced it would end on October 13th (I think), and they refilled the buffer for the last time on the 13th. People were still getting work for a solid 2 weeks after the last refill.

I guess I'm just assuming that the language they're using here means the same thing will happen here.

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Message 35558 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011 | 15:17:51 UTC - in response to Message 35441.


There are less that 13000 WUs left as at the time of my post.



There are now (4/22) more than 20000 321 sieve workunits in the queue.



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Message 35561 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011 | 15:52:47 UTC

This is the last time the work has been added.
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Message 35575 - Posted: 22 Apr 2011 | 22:48:16 UTC

Thank you Rytis for proving me wrong ;-)

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Message 36027 - Posted: 8 May 2011 | 13:38:27 UTC
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Update

It's official! With 0 tasks left in progress, 321 (Sieve) has been suspended. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this effort.

16 May: 0
13 May: 52
12 May: 172
11 May: 336
10 May: 780
9 May: 1403
8 May: 3011
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